Todd Palin: Powerful First Dude?

[Little Danny]

Ok, so the MSM continues their assault on the Palin's. They are now alleging that Todd Palin was a "shadow governor" to his wife Sarah?

What I don't get is the media and the left's obsession in destroying these people. Sarah lost, stepped down from her role as governor and will be doing the talk show circuit.

Also, why is the MSM not investigating politicians on the left? If it were not for the National Enquirer and Fox News, John Edwards affair and love child would have never been discovered.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35238034/ns/politics/

[Mr. 300]

This is SOP for the left. attack and destroy.

[september63]

Todd Palin doesnt even wear the pants in his own family!! Let alone a powerful first dude?

[Writerbuckeye]

Since she isn't even governor, anymore, why is this continuing?

Oh wait, I forgot. This is the same group that brought us Bush Derangement Syndrome.

Obsessed is putting it mildly.

[gibby08]

Please...don't give Fox credit for breaking the Edwards affair.....they had nothing to do with it


I've heard and read multiple places that Todd was behind the chain of events that led to Troopergate

[fish82]

I've heard and read several places that Todd Palin was banging J-Lo and routinely dines on human flesh.


You people never cease to amuse me.

[ccrunner609]

The difference in what news medias cover is amazing. One of the biggest problems today in politics is what we are privy to in regards to news.

If Journalists would do their job our government would operate alot different. They instead are strokers and nut chasers for their cause.

[Writerbuckeye]

I guess when the Commander In Chief can't even correctly pronounce the name of the most basic military personnel -- the left has to find something to distract itself with.

Life's tough when your idol's glow is getting more tarnished by the day.

[Bigdogg]

So people on here have a problem with a news organization doing a public records request on a potential future presidential candidate's family member? Where were all of you at back when Bill and Hillary were being vetted? That's right that's different.

[Strapping Young Lad]

God, these libs never cease to stoop to a new low. They should take the high road like the conservative news.

Let's all fight amongst each other. That should make things better.

[Writerbuckeye]

So people on here have a problem with a news organization doing a public records request on a potential future presidential candidate's family member? Where were all of you at back when Bill and Hillary were being vetted? That's right that's different.


No problem at all -- when the vetting is equal and fair.

With the Palins, it wasn't then and I doubt it still is.

Does that mean the media will be vetting our President anytime soon?

[Bigdogg]

So people on here have a problem with a news organization doing a public records request on a potential future presidential candidate's family member? Where were all of you at back when Bill and Hillary were being vetted? That's right that's different.


No problem at all -- when the vetting is equal and fair.

With the Palins, it wasn't then and I doubt it still is.

Does that mean the media will be vetting our President anytime soon?


Who is this "media" fellow you are referring to? What is "equal and fair", is this something you get to decide? I know lets set up a bi-partisan committee to decide then you might be happy.

Bottom line you run for political office you open yourself up to scrutiny. I am not sure that's its fair but that's the way it is. Most people bounce things off their spouse, I have no problem with that at all. I am interested in learning how much influence Todd Palin had while his spouse was the governor and I think it is fair to find out especially with all the controversy that surround the Palins.

For the record, I did not have a problem with the investigations with the Clinton's either.

[I Wear Pants]

I guess when the Commander In Chief can't even correctly pronounce the name of the most basic military personnel -- the left has to find something to distract itself with.

Life's tough when your idol's glow is getting more tarnished by the day.

Because everyone who voted for Obama or doesn't think he's the anti-christ clearly thinks he is god like.

[fish82]

So people on here have a problem with a news organization doing a public records request on a potential future presidential candidate's family member? Where were all of you at back when Bill and Hillary were being vetted? That's right that's different.


Actually, yes. She's not the governor, nor is she a candidate for any office. She's a private citizen.

Bill and Hillary were vetted because he was running for President.

Try again.

[Bigdogg]

So people on here have a problem with a news organization doing a public records request on a potential future presidential candidate's family member? Where were all of you at back when Bill and Hillary were being vetted? That's right that's different.


Actually, yes. She's not the governor, nor is she a candidate for any office. She's a private citizen.

Bill and Hillary were vetted because he was running for President.

Try again.


Even you should no the difference between a public records request from the time she was governor and the present. Don't see the harm unless you think the Palin's have something to hide.

Palin is a front runner to run for president. The question now is will she run on the Republican ticket or the Tea Party ticket.

Regardless, it's not worth debating with you anymore, I don't really care what you think.

[gibby08]

God, these libs never cease to stoop to a new low. They should take the high road like the conservative news.

Let's all fight amongst each other. That should make things better.




That made me laugh

[wkfan]

What I don't get is the media and the left's obsession in destroying these people. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35238034/ns/politics/


They are afraid....very, very afraid.

[goosebumps]

If you don't think that the left is threatened by Sarah Palin then why does this continue?

[BoatShoes]

If you don't think that the left is threatened by Sarah Palin then why does this continue?


What I think is, that the left doesn't take sarah palin seriously, which is probably a mistake. They think, "if she's the icon for this movement", how could we ever lose...They think she's a hack but what she may lack in pure policy knowledge, she makes up for in that a lot of Americans feel like they can identify with her and that's as important as anything in politics.

I don't think it's that the left is "threatened" by Sarah Palin and what she represents...but that they ought to be threatened and that villifying her will only make her threat more substantial.

I mean...I've already seen somebody quote "how's that hopey changey stuff workin for ya?"

People are buying what she's sellin and the left ought to take notice.

[cbus4life]

It does scare me like hell that people are buying what she is selling.

I would much rather see a multitude of other conservative candidates holding high-national office than her.

She is a walking, talking contradiction and a talking-point machine.

I don't get where people get that she is "starting" a revolution.

I mean, at the Tea Party Convention, she said the exact same stuff that conservative politicians have been saying for decades.

I'm just not seeing how her actual POLICIES and beliefs would be or are any different than any other conservative out there.

If we're talking strictly on what she brings to the table as far as actual ideas go, she is absolutely nothing special.

I would take Bush again over Palin in a heartbeat.

I'll probably get ripped, but i think she's a joke, and that isn't because i think she's not intelligent, or whatever. I just don't buy what she is selling, she's no different than the conservatives i've been seeing forever.

Nothing, but general, random talking points with no specifics/depth to any of the comments she makes.

P.S. did anyone else find this funny? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stefan-sirucek/did-palin-use-crib-notes_b_452458.html

If i have to pick a conservative, give me Congressman Ryan. The Republicans should be hitching themselves to his wagon. He's a smart, well-mannered Republican who the country should be proud of, and would represent us well in the highest office in the land.

[BoatShoes]

^Totally agree with you on Congressman Ryan. I don't know, maybe he just doesn't have that populist pizazz? I mean the guy seems perfectly happy to sit around and read through budgets all day long. Not the same appeal as being a hockey mom with a whiny voice I suppose.

[fish82]

It does scare me like hell that people are buying what she is selling.

I would much rather see a multitude of other conservative candidates holding high-national office than her.

She is a walking, talking contradiction and a talking-point machine.

I don't get where people get that she is "starting" a revolution.

I mean, at the Tea Party Convention, she said the exact same stuff that conservative politicians have been saying for decades.

I'm just not seeing how her actual POLICIES and beliefs would be or are any different than any other conservative out there.

If we're talking strictly on what she brings to the table as far as actual ideas go, she is absolutely nothing special.

I would take Bush again over Palin in a heartbeat.

I'll probably get ripped, but i think she's a joke, and that isn't because i think she's not intelligent, or whatever. I just don't buy what she is selling, she's no different than the conservatives i've been seeing forever.

Nothing, but general, random talking points with no specifics/depth to any of the comments she makes.

P.S. did anyone else find this funny? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stefan-sirucek/did-palin-use-crib-notes_b_452458.html

If i have to pick a conservative, give me Congressman Ryan. The Republicans should be hitching themselves to his wagon. He's a smart, well-mannered Republican who the country should be proud of, and would represent us well in the highest office in the land.


I don't disagree necessarily. However, one only needs to look as far as the current occupant of the Big Chair to see that's what sells these days in politics.

Yes, she's not saying anything new. But what matters is that she connects with people...love her or hate her, she has a charisma that can't be denied. She's Reagan with boobs...those who are old enough to remember his style will see the similarity immediately.

[cbus4life]

Can't disagree. :)

[pinstriper]

She could never get elected as POTUS. She could, however, deflect enough attention away from another candidate and get them elected. I think her purpose is to stir the pot, get the conservative movement going again, and flush out a "true candidate". The damn media is so fascinated with her that they'll try to convince themselves and everyone else that she wants to run in 2012, and then try to tear her down. Congressman Ryan is on his way.

[ManO'War]

I thought there is no way in hell Obama would even get the democratic nomination, much less win the presidency, but it proves how stupid the american people are. So never, say "never".

[Swamp Fox]

President Obama has made some very difficult decisions. He said that we would be changing things. The people who voted for him wanted the country to head in a different direction. He has been doing this, in spite of ferocious conservative criticism, which often times had nothing to do with his actual policies but had to do with his citizenship, his religion, his actual race, the attractiveness of his wife, and anything else that would divert attention away from anything that he did that seemed to suggest recovery from the disaster he had to start with. Now, although the problems have not been eliminated, they have, to some degree, been made less ominous and there are signs that the country is perhaps beginning to extract itself from the economic mess of a while ago. Obama is still well ahead in the popularity race nationwide. If the economy continues to come around and more people find work and the light at the end of the tunnel gets brighter, he will be re-elected comfortably. I think this is the fear of the conservatives. What if their best shot was withstood and the country is rebounding? I don't fear the threat of Sarah Palin. And for the huddler who said that she is simply a private citizen and isn't running for any office,,,I beg to differ. I think every time she speaks somewhere, she pictures herself as a candidate. I also think that as long as she does, it isn't anything to fear. It's something that most moderates and liberals welcome.

[Strapping Young Lad]

Hell yeah Sarah Palin is a threat. There's a reason that McCain's chances were killed when he chose her as his running mate. It's because most people hated the idea that she could be potentially running our country someday.

It's obvious that most people still hate that idea. That's why she's a target......

[fish82]

Hell yeah Sarah Palin is a threat. There's a reason that McCain's chances were killed when he chose her as his running mate. It's because most people hated the idea that she could be potentially running our country someday.

It's obvious that most people still hate that idea. That's why she's a target......


Yeah. That's it exactly. :rolleyes:

[Strapping Young Lad]

Yeah, they're probably targeting her to help her chances of being elected because they think she'd make a great president.....:shy:

[ManO'War]

She has more experience running a government than Obama does to this day.

[Strapping Young Lad]

Point???

[ManO'War]

That she couldn't do any worse than the present, no experienced guy in there now.

We have all these rules to become president...except one...EXPERIENCE...which should be the main one. No company would hire a CEO that didn't have a lot of experience, so running the country should be the same way. You should have to have at least 10 years of experience being a governer, senator, congressmen, etc.. to be allowed to run.

[Strapping Young Lad]

You have no idea that she wouldn't be worse. We should have higher standards for electing leadership then "well she couldn't do any worse"...

[ManO'War]

Isn't that why Obama got elected over Bush?? But as we found out, it can get worse.

I'm not a member of either party, because they are both corrupt, but I am against hand outs (to anyone or anything), big government, and waisting my tax money on all of their "projects".

I don't believe in taxing the rich, because it trickles down to the poor regardless. Do you actually think that someone who is used to living a high standard of lifestyle is going to "cut back" because they are being taxed more?? They will just either pass the cost on to the consumers, or they will get rid of some of their employees. They also have smart accountants to get around a lot of tax laws. You can't "punish" the rich, since it will only further punish the poor. So that is not only bad policy, it is lacking in common sense.

[Strapping Young Lad]

I'm against piling massive debt upon massive debt until it bankrupts the country, to invade every other country in the middle east for some uncertain and unknown purpose.

[tk421]

I find it hilarious and somewhat (very) frightening that liberals are so up in arms about the possibility of Palin running the country, but we have Pelosi running Congress and third in line to run this country.

[BoatShoes]

I find it hilarious and somewhat (very) frightening that liberals are so up in arms about the possibility of Palin running the country, but we have Pelosi running Congress and third in line to run this country.


As I've said before...if Nancy Pelosi and Sarah Palin are among our most talented women, well, then I think men need to start realizing that their shirts might need to be ironed. :P

[BoatShoes]

That she couldn't do any worse than the present, no experienced guy in there now.

We have all these rules to become president...except one...EXPERIENCE...which should be the main one. No company would hire a CEO that didn't have a lot of experience, so running the country should be the same way. You should have to have at least 10 years of experience being a governer, senator, congressmen, etc.. to be allowed to run.


So Dwight Eisenhower was qualified to be President? What about George Washington? How bout Abe Lincoln; he was only a Congressman for two years and failed in Business and in campaigns numerous times?

As an aside; people on the right and the left complain about career politicians yet scoff at a political candidate with no experience. :huh:

[majorspark]

I agree with BoatShoes on this one. These are the qualifications to hold the office of president. Period.

US Constitution, Article II, Section 1

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States

The 22nd amendment sets further limits reguarding term limits.

Lincoln is a great example. Although he never experienced combat he presided over the greatest and most difficult war in American history and yet led his forces to victory. As BoatShoes noted, reguardless of his personal business and political failings. Sometimes failure is your best teacher.

[ManO'War]

I would rather have a foreigner as President that is experienced, than someone who just barely fits the qualifications that doesn't know what he/she is doing.

BTW, I'm for term limits also, I was referring to working your way up and completing your term in those offices before you throw your hat in the ring for president.

As for Lincoln, I'm not was enthused as you are. I believe that states should have the right to break free if they so desire. Or are we just in favor of that when it is a communist country?

[gibby08]

Yeah, they're probably targeting her to help her chances of being elected because they think she'd make a great president.....:shy:




I laughed so hard when I read that....I almost choked on my soda

[majorspark]

I would rather have a foreigner as President that is experienced, than someone who just barely fits the qualifications that doesn't know what he/she is doing.

Good Lord no foreigners! Stick with the constitution. Some tyrants by the way are quite experienced.


BTW, I'm for term limits also, I was referring to working your way up and completing your term in those offices before you throw your hat in the ring for president.

I like term limits as well. The House of Reps were meant to be the voice of the common every day man. This is the body of the legislature where term limits should be implemented. The Senate was meant to be the body of the political elite. The career politician so to speak. A balance against the will of the masses. So I lean against term limits for the Senate. The 17th amendment poisoned true state representation of this body and thus increased federal influence.


As for Lincoln, I'm not was enthused as you are. I believe that states should have the right to break free if they so desire. Or are we just in favor of that when it is a communist country?

I agree 100% the states have the right to break free of the union if they so desire. I would argue that the federal government today is in violation of the contract governing the union between itself and the sovereign states. The last time some of the states challenged the federal government on this there was war and they were defeated. Such is the state of the union until a state or states challenge the federal government's authority once again.

As for Lincoln my point was to his ability to lead and defeat a challenge to the Union, reguardless of his so called prior "qualifications". He qualified as president under the constitution and once given that power exercised it well. He accomplished his goals. He was a great leader despite his previous business and political failures or perceived inexperince.