Do you feel safer with Barrack Hussein Obama in the Whitehouse???

[Mr. 300]

Terrorist attacks on and against this country seem to be "ramping up" lately. Espcially on our own soil.

What do you say???? Yes or no

[ptown_trojans_1]

Well, if we use the same metrics as was used for Bush, ie no attack against the country, then yes, I feel safe.

Seriously though, yes, I know some of the people who are in the intelligence agencies and defense department and are working around the clock to defend this country, I feel safe with them doing their jobs regardless of who is in the WH.

BTW, ramping up? Really, evidence of this? Has their been a spike since Jan? Or is this just the same pattern as before?

[IggyPride00]

No more or less than when any other President has been in power.

Besides at this point if we have an attack BHO will always just blame it on Bush like Bush did Clinton when a major attack happened on his watch.

[CenterBHSFan]

Well, since our Presidents are not the ones who do the actual guarding, I don't feel less/more safer with President Obama. He's just the next one in a successive line.

[september63]

I also agree. I feel the same as I did with Pres Bush or Clinton. Why didnt this thread just openly just bash pres Obama? Thats what you really wanted to do, didnt ya? By listing his entire name as you did.

[matdad]

Hell No!

[Gobuckeyes1]

"Barack Hussein Obama"

Still haven't gotten over it, I see. Barack HUSSEIN Obama is YOUR president. Deal with it.

I feel just as safe now as I did a year ago. And five years ago. The intelligence, law enforcement, and military communities are the ones protecting this country. They are doing their job just the same as they ever have, if not better. The insinuation that we are not as safe because a man with the middle name of Hussein is OUR President is an insult to those who work hard to protect us.

And don't try to play it off like you didn't mean anything by putting his full name in the topic. If the thread was about Reagan or Bush, you wouldn't have included a middle name.

[futbol4ever]

I also agree. I feel the same as I did with Pres Bush or Clinton. Why didnt this thread just openly just bash pres Obama? Thats what you really wanted to do, didnt ya? By listing his entire name as you did.


Why would you be offended at the use of his middle name?

[Writerbuckeye]

The infrastructure for defending us against terrorism is already in place.

Unless Obama does something stupid (like Clinton did) and creates a rift between intelligence agencies so they stop sharing information, things should continue to operate pretty smoothly.

I will say this: if the terrorist on the Detroit flight had happened on Bush's watch, the media would be all over the story questioning how he got onto the plane given his history and the fact his own father had reported him to US officials.

But so far as this topic goes, I feel about as safe as one can, given the folks who are out there trying every day to attack this country.

[hoops23]

The president doesn't make me feel any more safer than I already feel.

You have a much greater chance of being killed by a random criminal than you do a terrorist.

[september63]

"Barack Hussein Obama"

Still haven't gotten over it, I see. Barack HUSSEIN Obama is YOUR president. Deal with it.

I feel just as safe now as I did a year ago. And five years ago. The intelligence, law enforcement, and military communities are the ones protecting this country. They are doing their job just the same as they ever have, if not better. The insinuation that we are not as safe because a man with the middle name of Hussein is OUR President is an insult to those who work hard to protect us.

And don't try to play it off like you didn't mean anything by putting his full name in the topic. If the thread was about Reagan or Bush, you wouldn't have included a middle name.



My point exactly.

[ccrunner609]

Our president is a muslim isnt he? Since his middle name is Hussein? I am feeling really scared right now.

[september63]

Did you feel safer with William Jefferson Clinton? The man had the decision making ability to have a young woman suck him off in the White House? He thought this was OK?

[darbypitcher22]

^^^^

Clinton is the man.

[unique_67]

I feel the same amount of safety now as I did with Bush 43, Clinton, Bush 41, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon and LBJ as President. Those are the people who have been President during my lifetime, and I feel no more or less safe now than when any of them were in office.

The reality of living in a free and open society is we have alot of "soft targets" that are vulnerable to terrorist attacks at any time. In a country as large as the USA and with as open of a society, it is virtually impossible to prevent terrorist attacks from happening. And, the most recent incident involving a possible bomb on an airliner took place on a flight that originated outside the USA. I'm not sure how ANY individual or organization within the USA can be held responsible for an individual boarding a plane in another country and getting past the security with a bomb and/or the materials to put together a bomb.

[september63]

I feel the same amount of safety now as I did with Bush 43, Clinton, Bush 41, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon and LBJ as President. Those are the people who have been President during my lifetime, and I feel no more or less safe now than when any of them were in office.

The reality of living in a free and open society is we have alot of "soft targets" that are vulnerable to terrorist attacks at any time. In a country as large as the USA and with as open of a society, it is virtually impossible to prevent terrorist attacks from happening. And, the most recent incident involving a possible bomb on an airliner took place on a flight that originated outside the USA. I'm not sure how ANY individual or organization within the USA can be held responsible for an individual boarding a plane in another country and getting past the security with a bomb and/or the materials to put together a bomb.


TY sir. I could not have said that any better. My sentiments exactly!! That might be to much logic for here though. Always looking to blame Obama.

[majorspark]

I also agree. I feel the same as I did with Pres Bush or Clinton. Why didnt this thread just openly just bash pres Obama? Thats what you really wanted to do, didnt ya? By listing his entire name as you did.


As for feeling safe I agree. I think that most of us that lived through parts of the Cold War were far more fearful during that time then we are now.

As for listing Obama's entire name, what the hell is wrong with that? It is his name. Its not his fault his parents gave him that name. Was the Chief Justice bashing Obama when he spoke his entire name during the inauguration? Listing a presidents legal name is some how equated to bashing him is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Presidents are often call far worse then their own names.

[CenterBHSFan]

Its not his fault his parents gave him that name.


I thought that happened differently (?)
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Unique, I was just wondering what happened to you the other day! Haven't seen you in awhile.

[FatHobbit]

I don't feel any less safe than I did before he was in the white house, regardless of his middle name.

[unique_67]

CenterBHSFan,

To be honest, I have just gotten tired of this forum. There is very little actual worthwhile discussion, with much of it just bashing or people trying to prove they are smarter than other posters. I find the machismo of many of the people who post to be quite annoying, and do not see how it accomplishes anything positive. :(

[I Wear Pants]

I've never felt threatened by terrorism. Not once. Living in fear isn't living at all.

Also, I do feel safer with Obama in office. The rest of the world doesn't hate them so they're less likely to fly over here to try and hurt Americans because of him.

[FatHobbit]

CenterBHSFan,

To be honest, I have just gotten tired of this forum. There is very little actual worthwhile discussion, with much of it just bashing or people trying to prove they are smarter than other posters. I find the machismo of many of the people who post to be quite annoying, and do not see how it accomplishes anything positive. :(


I'm sorry you feel that way. I believe there was a poster on the old board who said you had convinced them to be more accepting of people who were different that them. (I can't remember the exact circumstances, but I remember thinking that wasn't something you see every day on a message board.)

[Writerbuckeye]

I've never felt threatened by terrorism. Not once. Living in fear isn't living at all.

Also, I do feel safer with Obama in office. The rest of the world doesn't hate them so they're less likely to fly over here to try and hurt Americans because of him.


I hope you don't really believe that last part.

The part of the world that despises us (and is most likely to try and hurt Americans) doesn't care who is in the White House.

[CenterBHSFan]

I've never felt threatened by terrorism. Not once. Living in fear isn't Living at all.
Also, I do feel safer with Obama in office. The rest of the world doesn't hate them so they're less likely to fly over here to try and hurt Americans because of him.

I hope you don't really believe that last part.
The part of the world that despises us (and is most likely to try and hurt Americans) doesn't care who is in the White House.


Agreed. Especially when President Obama really hasn't changed much policy concerning Iraq/Afghanistan.

[hoops23]

And neither has any other president.

[unique_67]

FatHobit,

Unfortunately, the person who made the comment you referenced on the other board does not post on this board. :(

[Swamp Fox]

The question and point is mute. I don't feel any less or more safe with President Obama in office. And for the record, I absolutely feel that the use of Obama's middle name was intentional and designed to dredge up the same old worn out and disproven accusations against him. It is customary to use the full name of the new President during the Swearing In Ceremony. It isn't customary to use it every time you are trying to discredit the President or suggest that something is true by inference. Ronald Wilson Reagan? George Herbert Walker Bush? Richard Milhouse Nixon? James Earl Carter? Lyndon Baines Johnson? it probably wouldn't take too long to research the number of times during these guy's Presidential campaigns that their middle names were used. There is absolutely no question that it was done with Obama to drive home the inaccurate religious inference attached to him by his political enemies, that some how his middle name tied him to terrorism, and it is still being done, and it is still as inaccurate as it was from the very beginning. Wasn't it Joseph Goebbels who claimed that it was better to tell a big lie over and over because the people would be more likely to believe it ? I think some of us have been doing it for quite some time.

[bman618]

If a terrorist is determined enough, they'll find a way to hit us. I'd rather live in a free society and have to take that chance - which is very small if it'll impact any single person - than living in a police state that claims to make us safe, and actually isn't much more safe and you have to fear the government then, too.

As for Obama, he really isn't that different than Bush.

[Swamp Fox]

I would agree with "bman618", both with regard to his view of the relative impact that Presidents Bush and Obama have had on the assurance of our safety, and also on how I chose to live my life. We can't live in fear every day. There will always be the threat of terrorism and so we deal with it. A police state is a far worse solution to terrorism than to just live each day and count on our current intelligence services to protect us as best they can. All things considered, they do a pretty effective job.

[Gobuckeyes1]

I also agree with those who say we can't live in fear. If I let terrorism affect the way that I live my life, then the terrorists have won. Like someone else pointed out on a different thread...I have a better chance of dying in a car accident on the way to the airport than I do of dying in a terrorist attack on the plane. I would much rather take that chance than live in a police state. This is part of the price that we pay to live in a free country.

F*** the terrorists.

[I Wear Pants]

I've never felt threatened by terrorism. Not once. Living in fear isn't living at all.

Also, I do feel safer with Obama in office. The rest of the world doesn't hate them so they're less likely to fly over here to try and hurt Americans because of him.


I hope you don't really believe that last part.

The part of the world that despises us (and is most likely to try and hurt Americans) doesn't care who is in the White House.

Good thing you're right about not believing the last part.

[dwccrew]

I don't feel any more or less safe under Obama's reign than I have under any other presidents reign, from terrorists. I do, however, fear many of the policies he is allowing Congress to enact. IMO, these are detrimental to our survival as a democracy.

[cbus4life]

Nothing has changed.

[Devils Advocate]

BHO= Douche....... GWB= Douche

The united States Military GOAT....


No or....yes...What was the question?

[CenterBHSFan]

BHO= Douche....... GWB= Douche

The united States Military GOAT....


Well, that just about covers it! ;)

[Apple]

BHO= Douche....... GWB= Douche

The United States Military= GOAT....


I totally agree.

But to answer the OP's question, I feel less safe because BHO, like WJC, is dealing with terrorists as criminals, not as military combatants. This is known to cause terrorists to consider the US weak and has been proven to embolden the terrorists to strike the US.

The longer BHO considers terrorists criminals and not enemy combatants, the more likely American civilians and US military personnel are going to needlessly die.

[Gobuckeyes1]

Hmm...looks like two of the terrorists responsible for helping to plan this latest bombing attempt were released from Gitmo in 2007.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/northwest-flight-253-al-qaeda-leaders-terror-plot/story?id=9434065

Pretty hard to blame Obama for this one...in 2007 a certain unnamed Republican was in office.

[CenterBHSFan]

Hmm...looks like two of the terrorists responsible for help plan this latest bombing attempt were released from Gitmo in 2007.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/northwest-flight-253-al-qaeda-leaders-terror-plot/story?id=9434065
Pretty hard to blame Obama for this one...in 2007 a certain unnamed Republican was in office.

Bushy, Bushy, Bushy!

At any rate, that just makes me wonder even more if it is such a good idea to shut down the joint and try the people as regular street criminals.
Hmmmm...

[fish82]

Hmm...looks like two of the terrorists responsible for helping to plan this latest bombing attempt were released from Gitmo in 2007.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/northwest-flight-253-al-qaeda-leaders-terror-plot/story?id=9434065

Pretty hard to blame Obama for this one...in 2007 a certain unnamed Republican was in office.


Which is why they should have just been eaten alive by pigs in the first farking place.

[74Leps]

and ol' Bush wasn't pressured into releasing them because of their 'brutal' treatment? By the PC crowd?

[74Leps]

Next we'll have to have our underwear checked before we can fly anywhere - problem solved. LOL but it isn't funny.

And I'm all for profiling.

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