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gorocks99
06.01.2011, 02:57 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/shaq

http://www.tout.com/m/9944wo

For real? I mean, he's old and SHOULD retire but everything I read said he was sticking out the contract. If it's true, thus ends one of the greatest NBA careers ever.

gorocks99
06.01.2011, 03:03 PM
ESPN story is up: http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nba/news/story?id=6615886

Laley23
06.01.2011, 03:08 PM
His time was up, but what a career it was.

killer_ewok
06.01.2011, 03:10 PM
Most physically dominant Center to ever play the game IMO.

Laley23
06.01.2011, 03:10 PM
For those who havent ever seen him in his REALLY younger days. This was what he was doing in HS and college:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br3AaISFc-A

Automatik
06.01.2011, 03:12 PM
It was time. I'm a huge fan of the DIESEL....one my all time favs.

gorocks99
06.01.2011, 03:20 PM
His run from the early 90s to early 2000s was dominating. Between the 93/94 season and the 02/03 season he averaged 11.9 rpg, 3.0 apg, 2.5 bpg, and 28.1 ppg.

Heretic
06.01.2011, 03:23 PM
When you're so dominating that opposing teams have to come up with a strategy designed to exploit your ONE weakness (Hack-a-Shaq), that says a lot about how unstoppable you were.

killer_ewok
06.01.2011, 03:23 PM
I was in my early teens when Shaq burst onto the scene at LSU and then got drafted by Orlando. He was, without question, my favorite athlete for several years.

"Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk."

GOONx19
06.01.2011, 03:45 PM
I would take Shaq in his prime over any player except MJ.

thavoice
06.01.2011, 03:51 PM
One dominating MoFo!

I have been a fan ever since he put up like 40 against my fav college team, IU. Think he hit 12-12 from the FT line in that loss to IU in the loss.

Dude could flat out dominate games. He was on what, three teams that went to the finals? Probably coulda won in Orlando but some guy missed some very important FT's at the end of the game in the finals and it sucked the life out of the magic...but i digress and could be totally wrong

Do you want me to pass it?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo
Do you want me to shoo it?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Do you want me to slam it?

se-alum
06.01.2011, 03:53 PM
Love Shaq, but it was time for him to go. Definitely has a future in the entertainment medium!!

killer_ewok
06.01.2011, 04:20 PM
One dominating MoFo!

I have been a fan ever since he put up like 40 against my fav college team, IU. Think he hit 12-12 from the FT line in that loss to IU in the loss.

Dude could flat out dominate games. He was on what, three teams that went to the finals? Probably coulda won in Orlando but some guy missed some very important FT's at the end of the game in the finals and it sucked the life out of the magic...but i digress and could be totally wrong

Do you want me to pass it?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo
Do you want me to shoo it?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Do you want me to slam it?

Nick Anderson.

osu45804
06.01.2011, 04:58 PM
Hell of a career.. Just wish he could have gotten that 1 last ring this year.....

Does this mean we finally get Kazaam 2?

Skyhook79
06.01.2011, 04:58 PM
His run from the early 90s to early 2000s was dominating. Between the 93/94 season and the 02/03 season he averaged 11.9 rpg, 3.0 apg, 2.5 bpg, and 28.1 ppg.

Those are impressive numbers except when you compare them to what Wilt Chamberlain (most dominant center ever imo) did from 59-71 seasons: 33.0 ppg 23.6 rpg 4.5 apg they didn't keep track of blocks back then but i would imagine he had a lot.

sleeper
06.01.2011, 05:05 PM
Shaq is the 3rd best player I've ever seen play the game.

gerb131
06.01.2011, 05:06 PM
Neon Badeau was great.
Enjoy retirement. Best center to play the game I'd say.

DeyDurkie5
06.01.2011, 05:07 PM
http://youtu.be/ajcY_MJHLng

Y-Town Steelhound
06.01.2011, 05:09 PM
One of the greats for sure. Personally I'd rather have Hakeem, but Shaq was pretty dominant.

thavoice
06.01.2011, 05:17 PM
Nick Anderson.
Bingo.

He missed 4 straight FT's while up by three in the finals. They got swept so one could say it would not have made a difference but I remember watching the NBA back in the day....those missed FT's and losing that game devastated the Magic and they never recovered. It is tough for to say that if he makes them, or enough for them to win, and they win game one that they win the series because they were swept and all, but damn at the time it let all the air out of them for the series.

SportsAndLady
06.01.2011, 05:28 PM
Those are impressive numbers except when you compare them to what Wilt Chamberlain (most dominant center ever imo) did from 59-71 seasons: 33.0 ppg 23.6 rpg 4.5 apg they didn't keep track of blocks back then but i would imagine he had a lot.

Didn't Wilt play in an era where the next tallest person was like 6'8?

killer_ewok
06.01.2011, 05:28 PM
Bingo.

He missed 4 straight FT's while up by three in the finals. They got swept so one could say it would not have made a difference but I remember watching the NBA back in the day....those missed FT's and losing that game devastated the Magic and they never recovered. It is tough for to say that if he makes them, or enough for them to win, and they win game one that they win the series because they were swept and all, but damn at the time it let all the air out of them for the series.

I remember that quite well and couldn't agree more. Orlando was toast (mentally) after that.

Hb31187
06.01.2011, 06:34 PM
Shaq>Wilt

hoops23
06.01.2011, 06:41 PM
One of my all time favorite players. When the Cavs sucked ass during his run with the Lakers, I found myself rooting for him, even though I could never stand Kobe.

He was the best Center of all time and probably the greatest showman as well.. He had the personality to go with the talents.

My all time favorite moment came when he was still in LA and Bill Walton was doing one of his games..

Shaq was hitting everything inside, dunks, jump hooks, etc.. He catches the ball just inside the 3 point line and without missing a beat Bill Walton says "SHOOT IT SHAQ, YOU'RE HOT!"...

It was fucking hilarious, mainly due to the way Bill said it.

se-alum
06.01.2011, 06:44 PM
Shaq>Wilt

This

THE4RINGZ
06.01.2011, 06:44 PM
Great player. I will miss his antics.

sportswizuhrd
06.01.2011, 06:49 PM
Great player. One of my all time favorites.

Who inducts him when he makes it to the HOF? Dale Brown? Kobe? Phil? Penny?

dave
06.01.2011, 06:51 PM
Wish him and Penny could have stayed healthy and in Orlando. Should have been the next dynasty after the Bulls.

gorocks99
06.01.2011, 06:51 PM
Great player. One of my all time favorites.

Who inducts him when he makes it to the HOF? Dale Brown? Kobe? Phil? Penny?

Paul M. Glaser

jordo212000
06.01.2011, 06:57 PM
He may as well have retired this year. Dude should be under arrest for theft. He didn't do anything for the Celtics this past year

robj55
06.01.2011, 10:26 PM
Most physically dominant Center to ever play the game IMO.

take out physically, most dominant period

robj55
06.01.2011, 10:28 PM
Those are impressive numbers except when you compare them to what Wilt Chamberlain (most dominant center ever imo) did from 59-71 seasons: 33.0 ppg 23.6 rpg 4.5 apg they didn't keep track of blocks back then but i would imagine he had a lot.

Wilt was playing against guys who would be small forwards today lol, what Shaq did was more impressive. Didn't they have to widen the lane because of him?

Laley23
06.01.2011, 10:47 PM
Wilt was playing against guys who would be small forwards today lol, what Shaq did was more impressive. Didn't they have to widen the lane because of him?

and add a zone defense.

robj55
06.02.2011, 12:06 AM
and add a zone defense.

thank you

Laley23
06.02.2011, 12:12 AM
thank you

and I believe the defensive 3 was for him as well. He was just sitting in the lane blocking shots and clogging the offense lol. Made the rule for his offense and then the counter rule to his defense.

imex99
06.02.2011, 12:47 AM
For those who havent ever seen him in his REALLY younger days. This was what he was doing in HS and college:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br3AaISFc-A

Sick video

Swyped from my HTC Evo with Eternal Prophecy 6.0 ROM.

Skyhook79
06.02.2011, 08:17 AM
Wilt was playing against guys who would be small forwards today lol, what Shaq did was more impressive. Didn't they have to widen the lane because of him?


Dikembe Mutumbo,Rik Smits,Todd McCullah,DaSagana Diop the 4 Centers that Shaq had to play against for his Titles.
Any of them better than Bill Russell? Willis Reed? Kareem Jabbar? Walt Bellamy? Nate Thurmond? Bob Lanier?
Wilt was a better athlete than Shaq in his prime. If they had espn type 24/7 coverage back when Wilt played in his prime you would change your tune.
Not only did he play basketball at Kansas he ran Track and field won the Conference High Jumping Championship 3 years in a row, threw the shot put 56 feet, Tripled jumped over 50 feet and ran a 10.9 sec 100 yd dash and had a 50 inch vertical.
If Shaq was so dominant why didn't he EVER lead the League in rebounding?? assists?? Wilt did it 11 times and led the league in assists, the only center to ever do that.

ernest_t_bass
06.02.2011, 08:26 AM
Dikembe Mutumbo,Rik Smits,Todd McCullah,DaSagana Diop the 4 Centers that Shaq had to play against for his Titles.
Any of them better than Bill Russell? Willis Reed? Kareem Jabbar? Walt Bellamy? Nate Thurmond? Bob Lanier?
Wilt was a better athlete than Shaq in his prime. If they had espn type 24/7 coverage back when Wilt played in his prime you would change your tune.
Not only did he play basketball at Kansas he ran Track and field won the Conference High Jumping Championship 3 years in a row, threw the shot put 56 feet, Tripled jumped over 50 feet and ran a 10.9 sec 100 yd dash and had a 50 inch vertical.
If Shaq was so dominant why didn't he EVER lead the League in rebounding?? assists?? Wilt did it 11 times and led the league in assists, the only center to ever do that.

Aww, how sweet.

SportsAndLady
06.02.2011, 09:22 AM
Dikembe Mutumbo,Rik Smits,Todd McCullah,DaSagana Diop the 4 Centers that Shaq had to play against for his Titles.
Any of them better than Bill Russell? Willis Reed? Kareem Jabbar? Walt Bellamy? Nate Thurmond? Bob Lanier?
Wilt was a better athlete than Shaq in his prime. If they had espn type 24/7 coverage back when Wilt played in his prime you would change your tune.
Not only did he play basketball at Kansas he ran Track and field won the Conference High Jumping Championship 3 years in a row, threw the shot put 56 feet, Tripled jumped over 50 feet and ran a 10.9 sec 100 yd dash and had a 50 inch vertical.
If Shaq was so dominant why didn't he EVER lead the League in rebounding?? assists?? Wilt did it 11 times and led the league in assists, the only center to ever do that.

The fact that a center led the league in assists pretty much strengthens our argument.

Skyhook79
06.02.2011, 09:39 AM
The fact that a center led the league in assists pretty much strengthens our argument.


Yeah right except he also led the league in rebounding that year (24.0) and averaged 25 ppg that year.

thavoice
06.02.2011, 09:53 AM
No one can really discount what Wilt did. His numbers are Ruthesque in the history of the game.

If you watch some of those old games on eSPNClassic you will see the centers of old didnt really have to go against guys hanging all over you. The centers got the ball in the post and didnt have the defender leaning up against them. They werent all over them defensively.

Shaq was dominant...no doubt about that. They played in different era's so it wil be hard to guage.....but Ya gotta give it to Wilt by his shear n umbers.

Rotinaj
06.02.2011, 10:06 AM
Yeah right except he also led the league in rebounding that year (24.0) and averaged 25 ppg that year.

You think wilt would average those numbers in todays game?

justincredible
06.02.2011, 10:30 AM
My favorite basketball player is better than your favorite basketball player!

wildcats20
06.02.2011, 10:51 AM
Great player. One of my all time favorites.

Who inducts him when he makes it to the HOF? Dale Brown? Kobe? Phil? Penny?


Nick Nolte.
http://www.landloyalty.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/blue_chips-300x154.jpg

LJ
06.02.2011, 10:54 AM
My favorite basketball player is better than your favorite basketball player!

So Wildcats is better than Dynasty?

justincredible
06.02.2011, 11:13 AM
So Wildcats is better than Dynasty?

My favorite basketball player is Chris Mullin.

Hb31187
06.02.2011, 12:40 PM
They had to change the damn rules Shaq was so dominant, thats saying something. If Shaq was back in those days playing against SF sized big men(and a league that allowed MUCH more physical play so he would stay out of foul trouble)...his numbers would of been out of this world.

robj55
06.02.2011, 01:39 PM
50 inch vertical? get real lol

Skyhook79
06.02.2011, 02:08 PM
50 inch vertical? get real lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Wilt_Chamberlain

Ironman92
06.02.2011, 02:19 PM
I agree with skyhook. Yes, the majority of his opponents were smaller to him than those to Shaq......but the stats combined with his other athletic abilities are unmatchable. Those collegiate track numbers are silly for a guy of his size.

hoops23
06.02.2011, 02:30 PM
Wilt is great, no doubt. But you out him up against Shaq and Shaq would dominate him.

Rules were created because Shaq was so dominate. (defensive and offensive 3 seconds). And if I'm not mistaking, 5 seconds back to the basket as well.

Shaq dominated Hakeem, Dikembe, Robinson, etc. That is much more impressive to me.

robj55
06.02.2011, 02:34 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Wilt_Chamberlain

I don't care what wikipedia says, there's no way in hell he has a 50 inch vertical, you're out of your mind if you think that. Dwight Howard and Blake Griffin only have 35" verticals. You're trying to tell me that 7 foot Wilt Chamberlain can jump 15 inches higher than those guys?

thavoice
06.02.2011, 02:40 PM
50" verticle....no way.

Most I have ever heard of is like 40-42. Former Hoosier Keith Smart was said to have a 42" verticle. I remember one time he just do damned high he coulda almost touched the top of the backboard I swear. He came down and was 'hurt' for a bit..and announcers said they think he was more scared of how far he came down after the jump. May have even been at Ohio state...I forget.

but wilt with a 50...no way

ernest_t_bass
06.02.2011, 02:46 PM
What was Melvin Levit's vertical? Wasn't it like 44".

karen lotz
06.02.2011, 03:23 PM
Wilt is great, no doubt. But you out him up against Shaq and Shaq would dominate him.

Rules were created because Shaq was so dominate. (defensive and offensive 3 seconds). And if I'm not mistaking, 5 seconds back to the basket as well.

Shaq dominated Hakeem, Dikembe, Robinson, etc. That is much more impressive to me.

I think that is referred to as the "Mark Jackson Rule."

Laley23
06.02.2011, 03:37 PM
I would also like to point out, that the widening of the lane was first for Wilt, and offensive goaltending was put into rule because of Wilt. So he also had rules made around him. Then you have Abdul Jabbar (or Lew Alcinder since it was in college) who had the dunk outlawed because of him. All 3 of those guys were completely revolutionary to the game of basketball in the paint.

Mulva
06.02.2011, 03:41 PM
A 50 inch vertical is almost as believable as him sleeping with 20,000+ women.

Ironman92
06.02.2011, 03:48 PM
Yeah....the 50 inch vertical is crap......but heaving the 16 lb college shot put 56 feet and running a 10.9 100m and being a 3 time HJ champ of the BIG 12....solid combination to go with his insane basketball statistics

Ironman92
06.02.2011, 03:48 PM
I thought Spud's was 48 inches and Melvin Levitt at like 52 being the higest I've ever heard.

Skyhook79
06.02.2011, 05:15 PM
I think that is referred to as the "Mark Jackson Rule."

and the "Charles Barkley Rule"

Skyhook79
06.02.2011, 05:17 PM
I would also like to point out, that the widening of the lane was first for Wilt, and offensive goaltending was put into rule because of Wilt. So he also had rules made around him. Then you have Abdul Jabbar (or Lew Alcinder since it was in college) who had the dunk outlawed because of him. All 3 of those guys were completely revolutionary to the game of basketball in the paint.

Jabbar should thank the person who out lawed dunking. It is the reason Kareem developed the "skyhook" the most dominating, unstoppable shot in basketball ever...

Skyhook79
06.02.2011, 05:33 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/130817-greatness-revisited-why-wilt-chamberlain-is-the-greatest-nba-player-ever



http://www.eba-stats.com/images/legends/chamberlain_jabbar.JPG


Wilt was around 300 lbs and near the end of his career at this point and look how high he still gets up, I have no doubt he had a vertical around 50.

trep14
06.02.2011, 05:52 PM
From the videos I've seen of Wilt playing, he doesn't appear to be particularly explosive. I don't believe he had a 50 inch vertical for a second.

pmoney25
06.02.2011, 05:58 PM
50 Inch vertical no way. That picture is not that impressive. At nearly 7 ft, I am not sure how high his reach was but it probably is pretty close to be near the rim on reach alone and his elbow is near the rim??Not that high.

With his height, you are basically saying Wilt could have hit his chest on the rim.

karen lotz
06.02.2011, 06:13 PM
I think some of you, including Skyhook, are underestimating Chamberlain. I'd conservatively estimate his vertical around 78 inches.

robj55
06.02.2011, 06:16 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/130817-greatness-revisited-why-wilt-chamberlain-is-the-greatest-nba-player-ever



http://www.eba-stats.com/images/legends/chamberlain_jabbar.JPG


Wilt was around 300 lbs and near the end of his career at this point and look how high he still gets up, I have no doubt he had a vertical around 50.

lmao you are delusional, Dwight Howard is the most athletic big man we have seen and his vertical is only like 35 inches. If his vertical was 50 inches his whole damn head would be above the rim easily, you are nuts

trep14
06.02.2011, 06:48 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/130817-greatness-revisited-why-wilt-chamberlain-is-the-greatest-nba-player-ever



http://www.eba-stats.com/images/legends/chamberlain_jabbar.JPG


Wilt was around 300 lbs and near the end of his career at this point and look how high he still gets up, I have no doubt he had a vertical around 50.

A 7 footer essentially getting his elbow level with the rim is nowhere near a 50 inch vertical.

Skyhook79
06.02.2011, 07:09 PM
lmao you are delusional, Dwight Howard is the most athletic big man we have seen and his vertical is only like 35 inches. If his vertical was 50 inches his whole damn head would be above the rim easily, you are nuts


I said it was a photo from late in his career not a photo of a 50 inch vertical. Thats probally about a 30-35 inch vertical at 300 lbs and about 34 years old. I'm sure his vertical was much higher when he first came into the league at 250 lbs and young.
Dwight Howard more athletic than Wilt? Did you even read the eyewitness stories?? smh.

robj55
06.02.2011, 07:13 PM
I said it was a photo from late in his career not a photo of a 50 inch vertical. Thats probally about a 30-35 inch vertical at 300 lbs and about 34 years old. I'm sure his vertical was much higher when he first came into the league at 250 lbs and young.
Dwight Howard more athletic than Wilt? Did you even read the eyewitness stories?? smh.

He never had a 50 inch vertical, sorry to burst your bubble, no rational person would believe that.

trep14
06.02.2011, 07:19 PM
I said it was a photo from late in his career not a photo of a 50 inch vertical. Thats probally about a 30-35 inch vertical at 300 lbs and about 34 years old. I'm sure his vertical was much higher when he first came into the league at 250 lbs and young.
Dwight Howard more athletic than Wilt? Did you even read the eyewitness stories?? smh.

I trust what my own eyes see more so than relying on what eyewitness stories say, especially ones that have probably been distorted with time. Watch the video of him playing, hes not overly explosive. Like someone said, Dwight Howards vertical is "only" in the upper 30's and hes 2 to 3 inches shorter than Wilt and he appears extremely explosive. Wilt just doesn't pass the eye test.

jpake1
06.02.2011, 07:20 PM
Wilt Chamberlain could supply a whole African village with protein for months from just a few jerks. TRUTH.

Hb31187
06.02.2011, 07:36 PM
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0aHnbJc7lwfLs/610x.jpg

Dwight Howard is not as tall, and hes still going up in this picture and his armpits end up about level with the rim when he dunks it. And his vert isnt even 40.

I believe Wilt is a hell of an athlete...but 50 inch vertical because Wikipedia says is kinda outrageous for anyone to believe.

Wikipedia and old "eye witness stories"(aka urban legend type stories which are extremely exaggerated) arent very credible

like_that
06.02.2011, 07:43 PM
I don't know what it was, but I hated Shaq during the Lakers 3-peat era. Always liked him before and after that. I am going to miss his antics. Not sure if anyone said this, but I think Shaq retiring is a indicator that there won't be a season next year.

hoops23
06.02.2011, 07:44 PM
I think that is referred to as the "Mark Jackson Rule."

Yep, you're right. While thinking about it I remembered after posting that Mark Jackson was actually the reason for the rule.

Good catch.

robj55
06.02.2011, 08:24 PM
Wilt Chamberlain could supply a whole African village with protein for months from just a few jerks. TRUTH.

lol

Mulva
06.02.2011, 09:21 PM
I believe Wilt is a hell of an athlete...but 50 inch vertical because Wikipedia says is kinda outrageous for anyone to believe.

I'm pretty sure the story of that vertical actually came from Wilt himself. He claimed to having a better vertical than Jordan('s 48 inches) in his prime.

robj55
06.02.2011, 09:23 PM
I'm pretty sure the story of that vertical actually came from Wilt himself. He claimed to having a better vertical than Jordan('s 48 inches) in his prime.

Those guys are bullshitters, I seriously doubt Jordan had a 48 inch vert, HIGHLY unlikely

sleeper
06.02.2011, 09:25 PM
LOL @ 50 inch vertical.

wildcats20
06.02.2011, 09:30 PM
Those guys are bullshitters, I seriously doubt Jordan had a 48 inch vert, HIGHLY unlikely

I think MJ's vert of around 47-48 has been document by the NBA. I just can't find it anywhere.

karen lotz
06.02.2011, 09:31 PM
I think MJ's vert of around 47-48 has been document by the NBA. I just can't find it anywhere.


Sure thing, superfan...

:)

robj55
06.02.2011, 09:32 PM
I think MJ's vert of around 47-48 has been document by the NBA. I just can't find it anywhere.

It could be but it's unlikely to me, people don't realize how high that is.

wildcats20
06.02.2011, 09:39 PM
FWIW...

Jonny Flynn recorded a 40 inch vert at the draft combine in 2009.

And Kenny Gregory had a 45.5 inch vert.

48-50 isn't really THAT out of the question....

Hb31187
06.02.2011, 09:40 PM
For some people a vert that high isnt out fo the question. I would bet my life that Wilt never was recorded at a 50 though

wildcats20
06.02.2011, 09:40 PM
For some people a vert that high isnt out fo the question. I would bet my life that Wilt never was recorded at a 50 though

Oh absolutely agree.

robj55
06.02.2011, 09:42 PM
FWIW...

Jonny Flynn recorded a 40 inch vert at the draft combine in 2009.

And Kenny Gregory had a 45.5 inch vert.

48-50 isn't really THAT out of the question....

It's certainly not out of the question, but a 40 inch vertical is incredible, 48-50 is almost inhuman like. I'm sure there have been guys who have had it though. I remember reading in slam a long time ago that there was a guy who went to the same academy as KG, although a few years after, who had an over 50 supposedly, doesn't seem humanly possible.

ernest_t_bass
06.02.2011, 09:45 PM
For some people a vert that high isnt out fo the question. I would bet my life that Wilt never was recorded at a 50 though

I'll bet your life too!

Laley23
06.02.2011, 09:46 PM
A 50 inch vertical, means the 7 foot Wilt could have damn near touched the top of the backboard (13 feet) with his head (he would be like 10 inches short). From a standstill. No. Fucking. Way.

wildcats20
06.02.2011, 09:48 PM
A 50 inch vertical, means the 7 foot Wilt could have damn near touched the top of the backboard (13 feet) with his head (he would be like 10 inches short). From a standstill. No. Fucking. Way.

Yeah, I don't believe for a minute that Wilt's vertical was 50 inches.


And the verticals listed are the "max vert" which is what most people use when talking about verticals.

DeyDurkie5
06.02.2011, 10:29 PM
I'm surprised skyhook hasn't quoted a bible verse to back his argument up...smh at a 50 inch vertical

trep14
06.02.2011, 10:47 PM
It's certainly not out of the question, but a 40 inch vertical is incredible, 48-50 is almost inhuman like. I'm sure there have been guys who have had it though. I remember reading in slam a long time ago that there was a guy who went to the same academy as KG, although a few years after, who had an over 50 supposedly, doesn't seem humanly possible.

That would be Ronnie Fields

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7fBmn6Ddx0

robj55
06.02.2011, 11:02 PM
That would be Ronnie Fields

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7fBmn6Ddx0

you got it, thanks

Ironman92
06.02.2011, 11:24 PM
Gdf

Ironman92
06.02.2011, 11:24 PM
If Wilt was was 7 foot and he had a 50 inch vert that would put his head at 11 ft 2 inches....not anywhere near 13 feet...about the top of the square....which ain't happening....but not 13 feet

Skyhook79
06.02.2011, 11:33 PM
If Wilt was was 7 foot and he had a 50 inch vert that would put his head at 11 ft 2 inches....not anywhere near 13 feet...about the top of the square....which ain't happening....but not 13 feet

Yeah Math must not be his strong suit.

http://www.verticaldunk.com/highest-vertical-jump-the-record-book

wildcats20
06.02.2011, 11:35 PM
Yeah Math must not be his strong suit.

http://www.verticaldunk.com/highest-vertical-jump-the-record-book

Sooo....48=50?

wildcats20
06.02.2011, 11:37 PM
I'm not trying to be a dick, but when you throw a number out like 50 inches, Wikipedia isn't exactly the greatest source...

ernest_t_bass
06.02.2011, 11:40 PM
I'm not trying to be a dick, but when you throw a number out like 50 inches, Wikipedia isn't exactly the greatest source...

Lol. First thing I thought

Skyhook79
06.02.2011, 11:52 PM
Sooo....48=50?

Oh so now your not impressed because its ONLY 48 not 50?? smh

wildcats20
06.02.2011, 11:53 PM
Oh so now your not impressed because its ONLY 48 not 50?? smh

Never said that.

trep14
06.02.2011, 11:56 PM
Sooo....48=50?

I'm still not buying 48 inches. Just look at the video of him playing. He has some nice dunks in it but nothing near what a 7 footer with a supposed 48 inch vertical would throw down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCWrGWuU2Ak

robj55
06.02.2011, 11:56 PM
That list is bullshit, in the comment section it says those are standing verticals, gtfo!

wildcats20
06.02.2011, 11:57 PM
That list is bullshit, in the comment section it says those are standing verticals, gtfo!

The same numbers showed up for "max vert" on the pages I was looking at.

Skyhook79
06.02.2011, 11:58 PM
That list is bullshit, in the comment section it says those are standing verticals, gtfo!


Yeah ok

robj55
06.02.2011, 11:59 PM
Yeah ok

you're telling me that someone in the world can jump 50 inches on a no step standing vertical?

Skyhook79
06.03.2011, 12:06 AM
you're telling me that someone in the world can jump 50 inches on a no step standing vertical?


So your telling me the list is made up?

Hb31187
06.03.2011, 12:07 AM
Yes


"About the Author

Hi, my name is Zach and I want to teach you how I learned to jump higher to dunk. After trying several jump programs and seeing the results of each, I started learning what works and what doesn't. Believe me, many programs available on the internet are scams and do not work. I even got hurt following one "expert's" workout program. Let me help you not make the same mistake. Click here to read my review of my #1 recommended jump program."



Credible, def credible

robj55
06.03.2011, 12:08 AM
So your telling me the list is made up?

use your head, a 50 inch STANDING NO STEP vertical, is not possible

Skyhook79
06.03.2011, 12:22 AM
Yes


"About the Author

Hi, my name is Zach and I want to teach you how I learned to jump higher to dunk. After trying several jump programs and seeing the results of each, I started learning what works and what doesn't. Believe me, many programs available on the internet are scams and do not work. I even got hurt following one "expert's" workout program. Let me help you not make the same mistake. Click here to read my review of my #1 recommended jump program."



Credible, def credible


That does have anything to do with the list. The list are recorded vertical jumps not the authors own list.

Hb31187
06.03.2011, 12:24 AM
Brandon Roy and Melo with over 40" verticals.

Paul Pierce with a 38? I mean these numbers cnanot be true lol


In fact it says Melo, Roy and Jordan Farmar have a higher vertical than Shawn Kemp? psh

Skyhook79
06.03.2011, 12:29 AM
Brandon Roy and Melo with over 40" verticals.

Paul Pierce with a 38? I mean these numbers cnanot be true lol


When do you think they were taken? Yesterday? Obviously they were taken early in their careers, maybe HS, maybe College, Maybe rookie year.

Hb31187
06.03.2011, 12:29 AM
Melo has NEVER been able to jump higher than Shawn Kemp lol.


And thats oen of my favorite players in the league so im extremely biassed

robj55
06.03.2011, 12:32 AM
When do you think they were taken? Yesterday? Obviously they were taken early in their careers, maybe HS, maybe College, Maybe rookie year.

just give up, no one in the league today is jumping 40 inches on a no step standing vertical, no one

Skyhook79
06.03.2011, 12:32 AM
Melo has NEVER been able to jump higher than Shawn Kemp lol.


And thats oen of my favorite players in the league so im extremely biassed

It's a standing vertical not all great jumpers can jump as well from a standing position.

Skyhook79
06.03.2011, 12:34 AM
just give up, no one in the league today is jumping 40 inches on a no step standing vertical, no one

Then post a list that refutes the one I posted and Wildcats posted about.

robj55
06.03.2011, 12:41 AM
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/?year=All&sort2=DESC&draft=&pos=&source=All&sort=12

No one has a no step vertical of even 40 inches

Tobias Fünke
06.03.2011, 03:34 AM
I've also read that Greg Oden's dick is 50''...

robj55
06.03.2011, 11:32 AM
I've also read that Greg Oden's dick is 50''...

lol more likely than Wilt having a 50 inch vert

Skyhook79
06.03.2011, 12:03 PM
lol more likely than Wilt having a 50 inch vert


It's 48 we have already established that.

2kool4skool
06.03.2011, 12:32 PM
Yeah Math must not be his strong suit.

http://www.verticaldunk.com/highest-vertical-jump-the-record-book

Where is he getting these numbers from? I see no sources, and the entire website appears to have been made by some guy trying to hock his ebook. Obviously he would want to inflate numbers to give people the idea they should/could be jumping even higher.

This is probably less reliable that wikipedia if anything.

2kool4skool
06.03.2011, 12:34 PM
From the site

Randy Moss - 51 inches

Actually, Moss recorded a 39 inch vertical at the combine.

Georges St. Pierre - 48 inches

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Tiger2003
06.03.2011, 01:27 PM
This is probably the best interview I have ever heard. Shaq is a great person. Talking about how his dad called him a dummy for not making his free throws!

wildcats20
06.03.2011, 02:27 PM
This is probably the best interview I have ever heard. Shaq is a great person. Talking about how his dad called him a dummy for not making his free throws!

His whole presser was GREAT. I expected nothing less from Shaq. I really hope he joins the TNT team.

karen lotz
06.03.2011, 02:29 PM
Is it available online anywhere?

Scarlet_Buckeye
06.03.2011, 02:36 PM
Shaq>Wilt

Wilt laughs at you.

ernest_t_bass
06.03.2011, 02:37 PM
This is probably the best interview I have ever heard. Shaq is a great person. Talking about how his dad called him a dummy for not making his free throws!

Link?

Skyhook79
06.03.2011, 02:50 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4684651/live-streaming-watch-shaq-here-at-1-p-m

Hb31187
06.03.2011, 02:51 PM
Wilt laughs at you.

He'd be the only one.

Pretty sure shaq could dominate a league full of SF's

cback33
06.13.2011, 05:25 AM
Wilt is great, no doubt. But you out him up against Shaq and Shaq would dominate him.

Rules were created because Shaq was so dominate. (defensive and offensive 3 seconds). And if I'm not mistaking, 5 seconds back to the basket as well.

Shaq dominated Hakeem, Dikembe, Robinson, etc. That is much more impressive to me.

Ok first of all dude.. the league was widened and the offensive 3 seconds was because of george mikan.. not shaq or wilt.. the 5 second rule was because of mark jackson... and shaq didn't DOMINTE hakeem.. you're crazy.. hakeem destroyed him the few games they played.. and the admiral held his own against him as well.. getcha mind right

cback33
06.13.2011, 05:31 AM
It's a standing vertical not all great jumpers can jump as well from a standing position.

Dude shawn kemp could get a dime off the top of the backboard... melo is not outjumping shawn kemp in his prime... these numbers are shit lol

Ironman92
06.13.2011, 09:57 AM
^^^^he was so dumb he'd probably get the wrong coin

dwccrew
06.13.2011, 10:33 AM
Didn't Wilt play in an era where the next tallest person was like 6'8?

And wasn't it a 9 ft. hoop then as well? Watered down basketball back then. I don't deny Wilt was great, but he was great in an era of basketball that couldn't touch college basketball now.


Dikembe Mutumbo,Rik Smits,Todd McCullah,DaSagana Diop the 4 Centers that Shaq had to play against for his Titles.
Any of them better than Bill Russell? Willis Reed? Kareem Jabbar? Walt Bellamy? Nate Thurmond? Bob Lanier?
Wilt was a better athlete than Shaq in his prime. If they had espn type 24/7 coverage back when Wilt played in his prime you would change your tune.
Not only did he play basketball at Kansas he ran Track and field won the Conference High Jumping Championship 3 years in a row, threw the shot put 56 feet, Tripled jumped over 50 feet and ran a 10.9 sec 100 yd dash and had a 50 inch vertical.
If Shaq was so dominant why didn't he EVER lead the League in rebounding?? assists?? Wilt did it 11 times and led the league in assists, the only center to ever do that.

Shaq played in a much better era of basketball. Better players: talent-wise and physically. Didn't Wilt play in an era where the hoop was 9 ft.?

BR1986FB
06.13.2011, 11:20 AM
I think Wilt needs to behave...

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/250402_208619695842372_100000830304986_489326_1482 992_n.jpg

jhay78
06.13.2011, 12:27 PM
And wasn't it a 9 ft. hoop then as well? Watered down basketball back then. I don't deny Wilt was great, but he was great in an era of basketball that couldn't touch college basketball now.



Shaq played in a much better era of basketball. Better players: talent-wise and physically. Didn't Wilt play in an era where the hoop was 9 ft.?

Skyhook was right about Wilt. You can't compare players from different eras. Of course Shaq would've dominated anyone from the early days of the NBA. The truly great players are the ones that transcend their eras.

Shaq barely makes my top-5 centers of all time:

1. Russell
2. Chamberlain
3. Kareem
4. Shaq
5. Olajuwon

robj55
06.13.2011, 03:30 PM
^^^^he was so dumb he'd probably get the wrong coin

lmao

Skyhook79
06.13.2011, 04:02 PM
"Shaq played in a much better era of basketball. Better players: talent-wise and physically. Didn't Wilt play in an era where the hoop was 9 ft.?"


9 ft basket? When was there a 9ft basket?

Laley23
06.13.2011, 04:19 PM
"Shaq played in a much better era of basketball. Better players: talent-wise and physically. Didn't Wilt play in an era where the hoop was 9 ft.?"


9 ft basket? When was there a 9ft basket?

lol, just read that. What world has basketball ever had a 9ft rim???

jhay78
06.13.2011, 04:28 PM
lol, just read that. What world has basketball ever had a 9ft rim???

I thought he was sarcastically referring to an earlier post. Then I realized that was his post.

Maybe the first peach basket hoisted by Dr. Naismith was 9 ft. off the ground, but never in a professional league.